Walt Disney World crowds are controversial. However then once more, isn’t every part nowadays?! Though wait instances at Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Hollywood Studios, and Animal Kingdom are what they’re–60 minutes is objectively decrease than 2 hours–the subject is definitely extra difficult than that for a number of causes.
One cause for that is that everybody has a special body of reference or tolerance for crowds. What feels busy to me might be very completely different than your expectations. Though wait instances are what they’re, some individuals could not assume points of interest–any of them–with hour-long waits qualifies as a day with low crowds. As a common rule, we discover that first-timers are nearly all the time stunned by crowds (and prices!) being worse than anticipated except they’ve intensive expertise with fashionable regional amusement parks like Six Flags and Cedar Level.
For longtime Disney diehards, prior visits play a giant function in perceptions. Walt Disney World has had a veritable attendance curler coaster, with numbers growing considerably by a number of million individuals over the course of the decade-plus culminating in 2019. Then attendance plummeted for a year-plus, spiked because of revenge journey for two years, and is now coming again to actuality on the bottom of pent-up demand.
Suffice to say, your particular person notion of crowds could range significantly primarily based on when your prior journeys occurred. It’s additionally potential that longtime Walt Disney World followers view the parks by the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia. We’ll be the primary to confess that we personally do that! I might wrestle to call negatives from our journeys a decade in the past.
Not as a result of they have been good (I’ve journey experiences documenting the downsides), however as a result of my thoughts filters out the dangerous and largely simply retains the great. That’s most likely why so many people are lifelong followers within the first place–however that’s one other matter for one more day.
Past this, there are additionally a number of different variables that may affect “seems like” crowds, together with however not restricted to festivals at EPCOT, climate, visitor demographics, journey breakdowns, operational effectivity, wait instances manipulation, youth sporting occasions, tour teams, and park working hours. That is only a partial checklist, and all of these are important variables proper now.
It’s totally potential that two households may go to throughout the identical timeframe and have dramatically completely different experiences–not simply differing perceptions of the identical factor. Let’s say this have been throughout Social gathering Season, one selected park days poorly, had a extra laid again strategy, received caught in traces behind youth sporting teams, and unfortunate with journey breakdowns. The opposite selected parks correctly, adopted savvy technique to beat crowds, and received fortunate with every part.
This will likely appear unlikely, however we see precisely this within the feedback or through social media reactions nearly each time we submit wait instances experiences. Two readers, roughly the identical dates, and radically completely different experiences. With out fail. It doesn’t even take “every part” going improper. Go to throughout cheer season and find yourself in line for Haunted Mansion behind what seems like hundreds of under-supervised tweens and that might be indelibly etched into your reminiscence. (Okay, I lied in regards to the negatives fading away–that is one I’ll always remember. We chuckle at it now, however it was like ultra-strength contraception when it occurred over a decade in the past!)
One other is that crowds have grow to be a heated difficulty as Disney has grow to be a polarizing firm. Some followers, former followers, or simply random individuals view Walt Disney World attendance by a political lens. If it’s down, it’s an indication that their “aspect” is profitable and boycotts or no matter is working. And vice-versa for the opposite aspect and better crowds. To not point out followers who really feel a vested curiosity within the firm, and cheer on larger attendance and even costs in the identical approach followers have grow to be captivated with field workplace outcomes.
However we’re getting forward of ourselves. Extra on this and a bunch of different components on the checklist itself. Let’s dig into the methods Walt Disney World followers might be improper about crowds–within the type of particular quotes we’ve heard, adopted by our rebuttals…
“There’s No Off-Season Anymore…”
For the final decade-plus, some followers have been saying, “there’s no low season at Walt Disney World anymore.” They mentioned this when Magic Kingdom attendance was 18 million in 2013, in 2019 when it was 21 million, in 2021 when it was 13 million, and in 2023 when it was 18 million.
Regardless of the ups and downs – by a number of tens of millions of visitors per yr (and even larger share modifications for the opposite parks) – “there’s no such factor as low season at Walt Disney World” has been a well-liked chorus. That is largely as a result of crowds have been considerably decrease in the course of the Nice Recession and working hours have been longer. (Bear in mind when Night Further Magic Hours have been 3 hours?!)
Many longtime followers are coming at this from the angle that ‘seems like’ crowds, throughout the board, are worse now than they have been throughout comparable timeframes in 2008 to 2010, post-9/11, or just about anytime within the Nineties. However the common visitor doesn’t have a time machine, so historic crowd ranges are unhelpful. The operative query is whether or not there are at present significant variations in crowds and wait instances over the course of the yr. The reply is unequivocally sure.
The 2 busiest days of the final yr have been December 29-30, each of which averaged a 70 minute wait time throughout all points of interest at Walt Disney World. That’s an astronomical quantity (keep in mind, it counts every part that posts a wait time) that simply clears the bar for a ten/10 crowd degree. A wait time quarter-hour decrease would nonetheless be a ten/10! Zooming out a bit, the week between Christmas and New Yr’s averaged a 61 minute wait time.
Against this, the slowest two day stretch of the yr was August 28-29, which had common wait instances of 19 and 20 minutes, barely registering a 1/10 crowd degree. That whole week was the slowest of the yr, with a 23 minute common and 1/10 wait time. I don’t find out about you, however I see a large distinction between 23 minutes and 61 minutes.
Let’s say we throw out the extremes, and evaluate mid-September to mid-October of final yr. We’re nonetheless taking a look at a ~20 minute distinction in averages. And that’s throughout the board, that means that multiplied out by a half-dozen points of interest all through the day, you’re taking a look at 2 hours extra (or much less) spent ready in line.
Look, I get why longtime followers grumble about present crowds and say there’s no low season anymore. It’s irritating that crowds are worse in the present day than they have been a decade or extra in the past. However on the similar time, it’s inconsistent with actuality to say that there’s no such factor as an low season when peak wait instances might be double or triple the sluggish season.
“Wait Instances Have been Above an Hour…”
On the danger of belaboring the purpose, the numbers above are averages. The perpetual no or low wait points of interest like Swiss Household Treehouse, Carousel of Progress, MuppetVision 3D, Trip Enjoyable, Nation Bear Musical Jamboree–in addition to different reveals or movies–are dragging down the numbers.
Because of this when you’re doing solely the “large” rides, your common wait time again on December 29-30 wouldn’t have been 70 minutes–it will’ve been nicely over 2 hours. In actual fact, the common wait time vary for headliners on a 8/10 to 9/10 day is in that neighborhood: 90 to 120 minutes. It’s even worse on 10/10 days, nevermind 10+/10 days.
Against this, the headliner common on 2/10 to three/10 days is 65 to 75 minutes. That’s even because the resort-wide common is round half-hour. The underside line is that below-average or low crowd ranges don’t imply each journey is a walk-on! You’ll nonetheless encounter lengthy traces at TRON Lightcycle Run, Seven Dwarfs Mine Prepare, Peter Pan’s Flight, Slinky Canine Sprint, Remy’s Ratatouille Journey, Avatar Flight of Passage, and so on–they only gained’t be practically as dangerous as throughout peak season. One hour is loads lower than two hours!
“We Have been Packed Like Sardines for Fireworks…”
Sadly, uncomfortable congestion is the not-so-new regular for fireworks at Magic Kingdom. It was already dangerous with Disney Enchantment, and has solely gotten worse for the reason that good fireworks got here again.
For the sake of illustration, let’s say that there are–on common–40,000 individuals in Magic Kingdom in direction of the tip of a busy evening. On a slower day, let’s say the quantity is 20,000 individuals–half the variety of a busy day. Now let’s assume that 10,000 individuals match on or round Fundamental Road USA.
These are hypothetical numbers…however do you see the issue? Whether or not it’s a sluggish or busy evening, the variety of individuals desirous to see Fortunately Ever After exceeds the capability of the viewing areas on and round Fundamental Road. One is way above capability and the opposite is “solely” barely above it. However, when a excessive share of visitors within the park are concentrated right into a small space of Magic Kingdom, that’s going to create crowding, no matter whether or not it’s a sluggish or busy day as a complete.
In the event you go to from August by December, it’s even worse because of the Halloween and Christmas Events lowering the variety of “free” fireworks per week. It’s nonetheless a math downside, however now you’re additionally introducing Park Hopping and a number of other days’ value of demand right into a single evening. There already isn’t sufficient capability on a daily day, now think about doubling it.
“30 Minutes of Early Entry is Ineffective…”
That is one other a kind of “burden of data” eventualities. Too many Walt Disney World followers underestimate Early Entry, and are irritated that it’s shorter than the defunct morning Further Magic Hours. Many don’t use it in any respect, dismissing it as “solely” half-hour and thus not definitely worth the time.
To make sure, Early Entry shouldn’t be that nice at Magic Kingdom–at the least, not till TRON Lightcycle Run (inevitably) joins the journey roster. That’s the one park the place Lightning Lane Multi Move makes essentially the most sense and common rope drop is simply nearly as good as Early Entry (possibly higher). Nonetheless, at 2 of the 4 parks, Early Entry is wonderful. (At EPCOT, it’s solely okay till Take a look at Observe reopens or Cosmic Rewind ditches the VQ.)
Between it and common rope drop, you’ll be able to typically accomplish and save extra time than a complete day with Lightning Lanes, and with out spending any extra cash. Now we have step-by-step methods for Early Entry and park opening in our Information to Early Entry at Walt Disney World.
“Magic Kingdom Was Nuts on… [Insert Day, Most Likely Monday]”
Followers underestimate simply how a lot day of the week issues at Walt Disney World. A part of the explanation the low season is sluggish is as a result of not everybody can go to when faculty is in session, or needs to go to when the climate is less-than-desirable.
However nearly anybody can alter their park days throughout the week they’re already planning on doing Walt Disney World. And few issues make as a lot of a distinction as merely shifting Magic Kingdom from a Monday to a Sunday. That alone will prevent 5 minutes per attraction on common!
That will not seem to be a lot given the above sluggish versus peak season distinction, however right here we’re speaking about in the future to the following, each single week. We’re pretty assured that anybody embracing savvy technique–like we espouse right here–can simply knock out a dozen points of interest a day at Magic Kingdom, that means that 5 minutes is an hour much less/extra ready in line!
Oh, and that’s additionally the common Sunday vs. Monday unfold over your entire yr. Throughout Social gathering Season, that unfold is roughly 7-10 minutes. One of many greatest strategic blunders you can also make is doing Magic Kingdom on a non-party Monday (or Wednesday and Saturday, for that matter) in November or December. (See Finest & Worst Days to Do Magic Kingdom Throughout Social gathering Season.)
“EPCOT Was Wild on the Weekend…”
EPCOT is the largest “native’s park” at Walt Disney World, and Floridians are extra inclined to go to on Saturdays and Sundays once they’re off work or faculty. That is really one situation the place followers are each improper and proper. EPCOT is wild on the weekends, or at the least, it may be.
This can be a situation the place analyzing wait time knowledge can get you into bother, as you would possibly (incorrectly) conclude that EPCOT isn’t any worse on the weekends. That’s true from a quantitative perspective, however not from a qualitative one. Wait instances don’t inform the complete story–and even the primary one–in terms of EPCOT on weekends.
Since locals are much less prone to do rides, they add to ‘seems like’ crowds and congestion at EPCOT on weekends with out making attraction wait instances noticeably worse. That is nonetheless a damaging, as traces for meals cubicles are longer and World Showcase is mostly much less nice on the weekends.
You’re additionally extra prone to encounter teams Consuming Across the World on Saturday and Sunday, particularly when UCF has away video games within the fall. Like our Haunted Mansion cheerleader instance above, we’ve vivid (damaging) reminiscences about World Showcase feeling like an open air frat celebration (fortunately, this isn’t as dangerous because it was once). If that is your measure of wildness, EPCOT is 100% extra wild on weekends. If wild is slang for ‘excessive wait instances’ then EPCOT is definitely wildest on Monday or Tuesday and least-wild on Thursday or Friday.
“Inns Are Bought Out, So the Parks Should Be Crowded…”
Each time Walt Disney World declares a brand new lodge or DVC resort, there’s a typical criticism amongst followers that the parks are already too crowded. This shouldn’t trouble me, as I agree with the animating concept that Disney ought to focus its assets on points of interest and the issues that make these accommodations viable within the first place.
But I simply can not assist myself, and infrequently level out that most visitors to the parks come from off-site. That Walt Disney World doesn’t exist in a vacuum, and that total lodge stock in Central Florida dictates crowds greater than the on-site room rely. That if demand for extra lodging is there, somebody goes to fill it. At the very least Disney constructing it offers the corporate with cashflow and an incentive to enhance the parks (nicely, in idea).
An identical concept applies with Walt Disney World lodge occupancy numbers. Bought out accommodations can be an indication of upper attendance, or simply as simply is usually a signal that there are main conventions or youth sporting occasions at or round Walt Disney World. These demographics are much less prone to go to the parks, so conventions or sporting occasions ‘blocking’ out rooms can arguably be a internet optimistic for crowds.
All of that is mentioned in better element in Why Are Walt Disney World Resorts Bought Out?, however the backside line is that lodge occupancy shouldn’t be a very good proxy for crowds. (By its very nature, Disney Trip Membership is designed to function at near 100% occupancy–so no DVC resort availability is completely meaningless.)
“ADRs Are All Gone…”
Very related concept right here as with bought out accommodations. The important thing distinction is that restaurant capability is commonly even decrease than lodge capability and demand is commonly larger. That means {that a} lack of availability for House 220 Lounge or Storybook Eating at Artist Level, which could possibly serve hourly visitor counts measured within the dozens, is pretty meaningless.
The instance we all the time used to provide right here is ADRs in the course of the Free Eating ‘season’ of August and September. Reservations for even reasonably fashionable eating places can be scarce, as visitors profiting from the low cost wolfed up all the ADRs. In flip, WDW planners would see this lack of availability and fear that crowds can be catastrophic. However they weren’t–these dates continued to be solidly low season regardless of ADR availability (or relatively, lack thereof).
All of that is previous tense as a result of Free Eating season this yr was not dangerous in any respect. Eerily so. As a common matter, ADRs have gotten simpler throughout the board, aside from scorching tickets just like the Candlelight Processional Eating Package deal. However once more, that’s extra a matter of restricted provide than sky-high demand.
“I’ve Gone This Week Each Yr for a Decade…”
“…And I’ve by no means seen Walt Disney World this busy!” Admittedly, this one is hard to clarify away. Giving individuals the advantage of the doubt with statements like this (that are fairly widespread on social media), I believe there are a number of components at play.
One is that now versus 2019 or earlier shouldn’t be an apples to apples comparability. Perhaps they have been FastPass+ energy customers who refuse to purchase Lightning Lanes on precept (kudos to them–battle the great battle!). Perhaps they received actually unfortunate, choosing to go to every park on its busiest day, getting caught behind large teams, encountering extreme journey breakdowns, and so on. Perhaps they’re viewing the previous by the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia, remembering the great and forgetting the dangerous. (Do these similar individuals say the identical factor, with out figuring out it, nearly each single yr?)
Actually, I don’t know how you can absolutely clarify away this. I don’t prefer to be dismissive, particularly to followers with many years of expertise, however the actuality is that the numbers normally don’t assist them–neither the general attendance stats nor the year-over-year wait instances. Generally they do, however historic crowd ranges don’t solely go within the upward course!
This isn’t only a declare on our half. Throughout earnings calls, CEO Bob Iger and the CFO Hugh Johnston have acknowledged brazenly that Walt Disney World attendance is down, and that pattern will proceed into at the least early 2025 (most likely longer given Epic Universe, however that’s us editorializing). They began saying the identical factor final yr, as quickly because the fiftieth Anniversary was over. Suffice to say, 2024 is much less busy than 2023, and 2023 was much less busy than 2022. There are exceptions to that for sure days and weeks, however it’s true as an across-the-board generalization.
“Walt Disney World Isn’t Busy As a result of [Insert Personal Politics]”
There’s no denying that we dwell in politically polarized instances. Or that Disney and Florida have discovered themselves on the epicenter (no, not EPCOT Heart) of the tradition wars. In consequence, everybody needs to challenge their very own private politics as the reason for decrease or larger attendance.
Really, no, not everybody needs to do that. The common visitor shouldn’t be an activist. They don’t a lot care or gained’t alter their trip plans resulting from politics. There’s quite a lot of bluster, however it’s coming from a vocal minority and possibly even that group’s personal habits doesn’t match their phrases.
There are simply a half-dozen higher explanations for Walt Disney World crowd dynamics than politics, particularly since attendance tendencies have had ups and downs within the final couple of years. “Politics” doesn’t clarify low crowds in September, however excessive ones come December. Except everybody has a change of coronary heart and will get into the spirit of the vacation season?
I’m not suggesting that politics have had zero affect on Walt Disney World attendance. I don’t doubt that some households have cancelled journeys because of the perceived politics of Florida or Disney. We’ve heard from many who’ve! However conversely, I additionally suspect others have been enticed to go to because of Disney’s and/or Florida’s perceived politics. To this extent that is occurring, it’s occurring on the margins or is a internet zero, or near it.
Frankly, there have been instances after I’ve needed attendance to take successful following a few of Walt Disney World’s most controversial modifications. However even after they began charging for resort lodge parking, the tip of Disney’s Magical Specific, changing free FastPass with paid Lightning Lanes, and so on., enterprise continued booming.
I want some followers would’ve voted with their wallets to provide Disney pause about these modifications and reverse course, however I gained’t confuse what I might’ve favored to see occur with what really did. (Additionally, I’ll readily admit to being a hypocrite on this regard, since I did no such voting with my very own pockets. Maybe one other lesson to be discovered from the political controversies.)
There’s additionally the truth that we are able to look past Walt Disney World to see different tendencies occurring (or not). For instance, Orlando Worldwide Airport visitors has been by the roof setting document after document within the final year-plus. This means individuals are not avoiding Florida as a complete.
Furthermore, Common Orlando has seen an attendance slowdown that just about precisely mirrors that of Walt Disney World. (In actual fact, Comcast has acknowledged the decline is bigger throughout latest earnings calls.) In the meantime, Disneyland attendance remained elevated for a full yr after Walt Disney World began to decelerate, whereas California’s tourism numbers additionally outperformed. You can not reconcile all of that through politics with out Simone Biles-caliber (psychological) gymnastics.
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